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Oh, ich habe vielleicht doch etwas gefunden, Auf S. 56 gibt es die folgenden Notizen bzgl. Arwen:Was mir gerade so am Rande einfällt:
Wird irgendwer von euch mit den neuen Infos aus im Elrond echanthel vielleicht etwas schlauer? Thou madest Elrond thyself???
Elerondorel > Elerondielde >> Elerondiel; Elrondhel >> hel-Elrond >> Elrondiel >> Elrendiel >> Elrenniel
Wenn #-hel bzw. leniertes #-sel "Tochter" bedeutet, gibt es vielleicht eine Chance, dass im Elrond echanthel sowas wie "die Tochter von Elrond höchstpersönlich" bedeutet(?).
Das sollte vielleicht in einen neuen PE18-Thread, aber dort gibt es viele neue Infos bzgl. des Nasalinfixes bei der Vergangenheitsbildung (zur Diskussion auf den ersten Seiten dieses Themas):
On the other hand n-infixion and n-suffixion remained concurrently in use, and often performed identical functions: as in the strong past tenses formed with either n-infix + suffix ē, yē or with suffix nē, nyē, as KAT pa.t. *ka-n-tē beside KAR pa.t. *kar-nē. (PE18:46)
A noteworthy point of Quendian is the very frequent variation between nasal suffix, as -mā, nā, and nasal infixion with vocalic suffix, as n-ā, n-ē. The origin of this is various. Certain vocalic suffixes had the same functions as those beginning with a consonant; if a vocalic suffix was added to an n-infixed kalta-stem it would appear to have transferred its nasal to the interior of the word. (PE18:51)
Similarly suffixal kn, pn (pm), tn were frequently transposed to ŋk, mp, mp, nt. But here we have also to reckon with the fact that nasal infixion was in CQ also employed as a morphological device parallel to suffixion of n. (PE18:55)
On the other hand variations such as 'doubling' (more properly lengthening) or 'infixion of homorganic nasal': as tt, nt beside simple t: may produce forms regarded as part of the derivational family of a 'base'. For instance in KAT: Quenya verbal stem cat- 'shape, fashion'; canta 'shape, frame-work'; cante, pa.t. 'shaped'. These are grammatical variations. (PE18:90)
On the other hand nasal-infixion and n-suffixion remained concurrently in use and to some extent in competition, as seen in the formation of past-tense stems with intrusion as *kantē < KAT, or with suffixion as in *karnē < KAR. (PE18:95)
On the other hand n-infixion and n-suffixion remained concurrently in use, and often performed identical functions: as in the strong past tenses formed with either n-infix + suffix ē, yē or with suffix nē, nyē, as KAT pa.t. *ka-n-tē beside KAR pa.t. *kar-nē. (PE18:46)
A noteworthy point of Quendian is the very frequent variation between nasal suffix, as -mā, nā, and nasal infixion with vocalic suffix, as n-ā, n-ē. The origin of this is various. Certain vocalic suffixes had the same functions as those beginning with a consonant; if a vocalic suffix was added to an n-infixed kalta-stem it would appear to have transferred its nasal to the interior of the word. (PE18:51)
Similarly suffixal kn, pn (pm), tn were frequently transposed to ŋk, mp, mp, nt. But here we have also to reckon with the fact that nasal infixion was in CQ also employed as a morphological device parallel to suffixion of n. (PE18:55)
On the other hand variations such as 'doubling' (more properly lengthening) or 'infixion of homorganic nasal': as tt, nt beside simple t: may produce forms regarded as part of the derivational family of a 'base'. For instance in KAT: Quenya verbal stem cat- 'shape, fashion'; canta 'shape, frame-work'; cante, pa.t. 'shaped'. These are grammatical variations. (PE18:90)
On the other hand nasal-infixion and n-suffixion remained concurrently in use and to some extent in competition, as seen in the formation of past-tense stems with intrusion as *kantē < KAT, or with suffixion as in *karnē < KAR. (PE18:95)